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S1E15b- A Tale of Two Andrews – Two Federal Politicians / But No Politics! Andrew Hastie (MP) and Andrew Leigh (MP)

May 4, 2019

In this split episode, we interview both Andrew Hastie, MP (Liberal) and Andrew Leigh, MP (Labor).  We communally discuss everything from Shakespeare, regional security, economics and distance running. But no politics under fear of push-up punishments!

With the Australian Federal Election looming, two of our sitting members were kind enough to take a few minutes off the campaign trail to chat with us in this special double episode. 


In Part B. Andrew Leigh is a lawyer, an economist, a published author and a podcast host – his outstanding show, The Good Life: Andrew Leigh in Conversationhas been running for over 85 episodes. He also has a PhD in Public Policy from the Kennedy School at Harvard and is an accomplished distance runner, capable of completing a marathon averaging sub-four-minute kilometres. Andrew has been a member of the Australian House of Representatives since 2010, and is representing the seat of Fenner in the ACT, as part of the Australian Labor Party.


Intelligence Summary (INTSUM)- Part B – Andrew Leigh, MP (Labor)


2:38 – The Hon Michael Kirby AC CMG -

4:15 – Richard Thaler, winner of the 2017 Nobel Prize for economics, for his work in behavioural economics -

4:39 – Daniel Kahneman, winner of the 2002 Nobel Prize for economics -

5:55 – Boaty McBoatface was the winner in an online poll to name a new polar research vessel (the vessel was subsequently named the RRS Sir David Attenborough


5:57 – The same thing then happened with an Australian ferry, which was later renamed after children’s author May Gibbs -

8:25 – Andrew’s book Choosing Openness

11:50 – Harvard Kennedy School -

18:38 - Andrew’s book Prince’s New Clothes

21:00 – Thomas Friedman’s book Thank You for Being Late

33:03 – ‘La Volupté’, taken from Jean Bobet’s Tomorrow We Ride

33:40 – Tim Winton’s Shepherd’s Hut

34:22 – Dava Sobel’s Longitude

34:23 – David Hunt’s True Girt

34:44 – Podcasts – Malcolm Gladwell’s Revisionist History, Against the Rules with Michael Lewis, David Madden’sRevolution of Necessity

41:52 - Ronald Heifetz, The Practice of Adaptive Leadership

42:30 – The importance of fostering a ‘safe’ environment and of mentoring

43:50 – Andrew’s definition of happiness

46:35 – Walter Pater -

49:20 – Martha Nussbaum -



The Good Life: Andrew Leigh in Conversation -


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