Two ex-special operations guys armed with MBAs seek out people leading lives less ordinary, in order to find out how they fill their ‘unforgiving minutes’, and what helps them go, always, a little further. Like intellectual bowerbirds, we collect shiny little objects of knowledge that will help build better humans. Co-hosted by Ben Pronk and Tim Curtis.
Episodes
Thursday Jun 17, 2021
S3E11 – Dr Richard Magtengaard: Psychiatrist- Understanding Your Lizard Brain
Thursday Jun 17, 2021
Thursday Jun 17, 2021
What do we do better? Decommissioning aircraft or decommissioning people? This episode will explore how well we do the latter.
Dr Richard Magtengaard is a psychiatrist with near 20 years of clinical experience, working extensive with veterans and first responders. But he’s pretty different to who and what you might expect...
- Firstly, Richard served for 10 years as an officer in the Royal Australian Navy, before retiring to complete his Postgraduate Degree within Medicine (MBBS) and then into psychiatry.
- Secondly, Richard prefers to use non-conventional therapies over medication.
We ask Richard about the merit of art therapy, animal therapy, forgery, the use of psychedelics and much more.
What can we do NOW so we don’t need to end up seeing a psych!?
Richard is currently the Director of the Military Trauma Recovery Programme. This programme remains dedicated to assisting Defence Personnel, our Veterans, First Responder Organisations and their families who have sustained physical and psychological traumas during the performance of their duties.
Richard is passionate about the future of disruptive health technologies to improve outcomes in care, including neurostimulation with rTMS (repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation).
Intelligence Summary (INTSUM)
00:30 Please excuse the echo in the introduction as we tested our new non sound. proofed studio…. Don’t ask why!? Just ask Ben!
03:55 Richard’s surname…. And how it translated into a nickname!
08:20 Joining the Navy from a Wheatbelt town.
12:00 Summarising Richard’s Navy service, and transferrable lessons learned into psychiatry.
14:30 Why psychiatrists are bad are decompressed.
16:20 Rights of individuals….. versus collective responsibility.
18:50 Has Richard ever crashed a boat?
21:00 The most confronting professional sights for Richard.
22:20 Out of the Navy whites and into the Scrubs.
24:15 Combat operations- fascinating science or difficult treatment?
26:00 Therapies other than medication.
28:00 Tim’s opinion on the role of ‘forgery’.
29:20 Mammalian brains…. why we have challenges.
31:00 Did we prepare people well for 20 years of combat operations?
35:30 Mark Wales and his brain being more lizard than human!
42:30 Art therapy- how (and does) it work?
47:20 Animal therapy… gimmick or effective?
52:00 Is there a place for psychedelics?
56:50 Set and settings…. dose and environment. Loving yourself and removing stress.
59:10 Richard talks disruptive health technologies and transcranial magnetic stimulation.
1:03:20 What can we do so we don’t need to end up seeing a psych!?
1:05:50 On breathing.
1:07:50 On victimhood, diagnoses, power and control …. Richard’s thoughts.
1:12:15. Caring for the carers
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External Links
- More information on Richard is available here.
Music
The Externals – available on Spotify
Mitchell Martin- available on Spotify