Two ex-special operations guys armed with MBAs seek out people leading lives less ordinary, in order to find out how they fill their ‘unforgiving minutes’, and what helps them go, always, a little further. Like intellectual bowerbirds, we collect shiny little objects of knowledge that will help build better humans. Co-hosted by Ben Pronk and Tim Curtis.
Episodes
Thursday Oct 13, 2022
Thursday Oct 13, 2022
TRIGGER WARNING. This episode discusses the 2002 Bali Bombing and involves content that some might find disturbing.
‘Macca’ is a knock about Aussie guy who 20 years ago at 19 years old played some pretty sub amateur footy at Kingsley Football Club in Perth. In October 2002, they won the team's first premiership and 20 people flew to Bali for an end-of-season trip to celebrate their victory. But only 13 of the teammates made it home. The remaining seven were killed in the Bali bombings, a terrorist attack which claimed the lives of 202 people, including 88 Australians.
Macca remembers seeing and hearing the blast. He was sitting around a table in the Sari Club with some mates and some girls they had befriended that night. What happened in the aftermath, including his response, and the selfless response of his teammates is quite remarkable.
This episode is powerful, but it also shows the caring side of Macca who has been profoundly affected by the incident. But it also shows his commitment to his own post traumatic growth.
07:30 Elite research on our guest
08:00 About Kingsley Football Club
08:30 Kingsley Football Club really sucked in 2001!
11:00 The win the Grand Final… and off to Bali they go!
14:00 Into the Sari Club…. Macca recounts the situation
19:00 Recall…. How our brains trick us…. Macca’s brains response
22:00 The startling result at Macca’s table. 8 metres from the bomb. Why/ How did Macca survive?
24:45 The Football Club refuse to leave…. Counting the cost. Trying to find their teammates.
26:30 How is Macca’s emotional state?
28:20 How long before the realisation that mates had been killed?
33:25 Coming home
45:00 After year one… revenge or forgiveness?
51:00 Maccas advice to those going through trauma
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Music
The Externals – available on Spotify
Tongue Charge- not good enough to be available anywhere!!
Mitchell Martin
Nik Kali
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