Two ex-special operations guys armed with MBAs seek out people leading lives less ordinary, in order to find out how they fill their ‘unforgiving minutes’, and what helps them go, always, a little further. Like intellectual bowerbirds, we collect shiny little objects of knowledge that will help build better humans. Co-hosted by Ben Pronk and Tim Curtis.
Episodes
Monday May 30, 2022
Monday May 30, 2022
Shannon Polson was one of Americas first female gunship pilots. We talk flying and that incredible aircraft but also climbing, losing loved ones and grit and resilience.
After a childhood in Alaska, Shannon studied English literature and art history at Duke University then commissioned into the Army to fly Apache helicopters, serving on three continents and leading two flight platoons and a line company.
In the midst of school and flying came skydiving, scuba diving, big-mountain climbing and long-course triathlons. She climbed Tim’s dream mountain- Denali.
Now she devotes her work to speaking, research and writing, as well as online and bespoke facilitated leadership journeys for leaders at The Grit Institute.
Shannon has an MBA from the Tuck School at Dartmouth, and an MFA in creative writing.
05:00 Shannon’s background…. And swimming in Alaska!
07:20 What is ROTC in the US… and how does that allow you to fly Army helicopters?
09:00 Learning to fly helicopters…. Rub your tummy and pat your head!
11:10 What are the roles and responsibilities in an Apache gunship…. Tandem seated!
12:10 How do two pilots in the same aircraft collaborate and cooperative?
14:50 Ben talks about receiving air support in Afghanistan
17:20 Shannon’s advice for women wanting to fly in the military
20:00 Shannon climbs Denali….. the story J
25:00 Tragically Shannon loses both of her parents …. the story L
28:00 Interlude- Information on The Resilience Retreat off Cairns
29:15 What is resilience to Shannon?
33:15 Ego and self efficacy…. And grit and resilience
37:50 Talking transferrable knowledge from the military into corporates
40:30 Advice on determining purpose in work- Paths to Purpose at Tuck School
43:20 How can we separate role and identity?
50:45 Shannon’s Power Song!
External Links
The Grit Factor book by Shannon is here
Shannon’s LinkedIn
More about Shannon from her Instagram
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Music
The Externals – available on Spotify
Ben Frichot - available on Spotify