Two ex-special operations guys armed with MBAs seek out people leading lives less ordinary, in order to find out how they fill their ‘unforgiving minutes’, and what helps them go, always, a little further. Like intellectual bowerbirds, we collect shiny little objects of knowledge that will help build better humans. Co-hosted by Ben Pronk and Tim Curtis.
Episodes
Monday Jun 22, 2020
Monday Jun 22, 2020
In this episode, Tim and Ben look back on their discussions with David Olney, Dr Kate Baecher and the amazing guests from their special Tempus Fugit double episode, before turning a very critical eye on their own performance in Alex Lloyd’s Life on the Line podcast.
As always, please let us know what you think! Good, bad or indifferent, we’d love to hear from you – please email debrief@unforgiving60.com.
Intelligence Summary (INTSUM)
01:30 Reflections on Dave Olney
01:40 How we first came to be introduced to Dave Olney – through one of his university students
02:30 Dave Olney on Dave Grossman
05:17 Dave Olney’s podcast Blind Insights – a cracking listen!
05:38 Tim and Ben discuss the potential of joining Dave on an episode of his ‘Blind Drunk Insights’ – potentially the only way they’ll be able to keep up with him intellectually
06:30 Reflections on Kate Baecher
07:00 Ben and Tim’s confessions regarding Dr Kate’s apple cider vinegar (ACV) prescription
07:50 Tim’s groundbreaking medical opinion on breathing
08:50 Ben talks about the main source of stress in his work life
09:20 Dr Kate’s advice on overcoming fear
10:00 Fear, sensory overload and innoculation
11:20 Psychology as part of a front-line emergency health care effort
12:24 Rock climbing: overcoming fear and flow states
14:35 Reflections on Tim Reynolds
15:22 The importance of family – even when you’re not facing a terminal prognosis
16:40 Tim Reynolds’ involvement in art as therapy
17:30 Link to the Unforgiving60 Instagram page, which features Tim Reynolds’ amazing portrait of Cameron Baird VC
18:37 Reflections on CPL Matt Williams OAM
19:20 Why Willy stood us up for the podcast
21:40 Ben and Tim on Ben and Tim on Life on the Line
23:30 Tim on his famous (potentially stolen) quote ‘Would you hire you?’
24:25 Ben and Time on ego (this is what Skyhooks think on the topic)
25:30 Imposter syndrome
27:30 Ben: “Different interactions with different people are going to have different results”. Profound….
28:30 Child soldiers – a really confronting concept
29:30 Ben and Tim debate how much Tim is worth – in terms of bounty and/or ransom
32:30 Update on Heather Taylor
34:00 ‘AIS’ actually stands for Automatic Identification System
36:00 Tim (non-Water Operator) talks a big game about sea-sickness. Ben (Water Operator) on his chronic sea-sickness.
37:30 What’s coming up next on the Unforgiving60?
37:45 Ben’s request for an Externals song as an outro – US Radio
External Links
- Dave Olney’s podcast Blind Insights
- Dr Kate Baecher’s business ElysiumHP
- MAPA – the Military Art Program Australia
- @willybeatingcancer – Matt Williams OAM’s Instagram page
- Alex Lloyd’s brilliant Life on the Line podcast
- Heather Taylor’s Pacific Giants Row
Music
The Externals … Available on Spotify (plus a bit of Ben’s guitar work, recorded in the bathroom of one of Saddam’s palaces in Tikrit, Iraq!)