Mark Wales knows first-hand what happens when a Special Ops combat veteran designs a leather jacket. And also, how to find love on a reality TV show!
He’s a Special Operations Combat veteran. Boxer. CrossFit Regionals athlete. Ivy League MBA graduate. McKinsey consultant. Fashion designer. Entrepreneur. Model. Reality TV star. Father. Husband.
Mark Wales has fit a whole bunch of titles to his name, and he certainly doesn’t appear to be slowing down.
In this episode, the conversation ranges from the tragic (losing a mate in combat) to the absurd (an inappropriately long discussion on bringing back leather pants). It takes us from Newman to New York; and provides insights working with McKinsey to redesign a cheese packet; and finding love on reality TV. But also, what traits Mark hopes to pass onto his son. An absolute must-listen episode with an individual who continues to go – always – a little further.
Intelligence Summary (INTSUM)
2:42 One of these kids is not like the others….. Ben and Mark talk CrossFit Regionals. Tim (having never been to Regionals) is unable to contribute meaningfully.
5:35 Mark’s right of reply to being killed off during our Zombie Apocalypse episode with Mick Neven
6:33 Mark’s early years in rural Western Australia
8:10 Ben recalls the pinnacle of his military career – getting a ‘black jibber’ for academics as a cadet at the Australian Defence Force Academy
8:30 Mark’s first field exercise at the Royal Military College Duntroon – in which he accidentally attacks his own troops
9:35 Posted to the 2nd Battalion of the Royal Australian Regiment, in Townsville, Queensland prior to successfully completing SAS selection
10:55 Mark’s strategy to get off the selection course without shame
12:20 Mark’s time in SASR
15:15 Losing a mate in combat – and getting on with leadership while dealing with the impacts
19:15 Ramp ceremonies – farewelling a mate
22:50 Back to the Royal Military College – as an instructor
25:04 The motivation to get out of the Army and do an MBA – at Wharton!
30:40 The genesis of Kill Kapture – tough luxury!
31:40 Cost of goods: $1500. Sale price: $1000. Not the endorsed Wharton pricing strategy
31:55 Coming up with the name “Kill Kapture”
33:40 Building the first jacket in New York’s garment district
35:20 Tough luxury – and taking inspiration from military uniforms
35:55 Out of Wharton and into McKinsey & Co
37:45 Taking on Australian Survivor
38:45 Reality TV – putting military Operational Security to shame!
40:40 Tim throws out some more spurious ‘facts’ (which turn out to be true – John Lapaglia is a medical doctor)
42:35 Celebrity models – former SecDef Jim Matthis in KillKapture
44:45 Seeing (now wife) Samantha Gash for the first time
47:20 Coming off the island – and catching back up with Sam
48:05 Now - and to the future. Corporate speaking roles and a new product launch
50:10 Tim and Ben reflect on their very brief period as watch brand ambassadors
50:55 The future of Kill Kapture
52:55 ….which may or may not include leather pants…..
53:40 Mark on leadership, resilience, PTSD – and opening up a little through his corporate speaking roles
56:05 Mark’s daily routine – doing the basics well
57:15 On fatherhood
1:01:20 Quick Question / Quick Answers – on luck, fashion, power songs and Mark’s coolest Army moments
1:05:45 The Cormack McCarthy quote Mark refers to: ‘“War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner” (from Blood Meridian)
Mark’s Corporate Speaking profile
Mark’s Survivor page
By: The Externals …. Available on Spotify